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"linear" here means that the usual narrative is

hunter-gatherers → agriculture → permanent settlements → cities → states → civilization

the usual reasoning is

agriculture → surplus → settlement → religion/monumental architecture

it's not at all about civilizations and/or empires collapsing and being reborn in different shapes or social and economic reforms being rediscovered, that already implies some highly sofisticated form of society, while places like Göbekli Tepe predates the pyramids by 5.000 years


Again I don't see the comparison being made?

Like we known hunter gatherers had social hierarchy, settlements and crafts.

https://www.heritagedaily.com/2023/01/preserved-10500-year-o...

“These aren’t people that were struggling to survive. They were people confident in their understanding of this landscape, and of the behaviours and habitats of different animal species that lived there,” added Gray.

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2020ArchP..27..329T/abstra...

"Their social organization was complex and can even be compared with that of the Levantine Early Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) farming society."

It seems like Graeber was fighting a strawman?


The book is Wengrow and Graeber. Your references post date their work - Graeber has been dead for years. Much of the material under discussion is in this 2015 essay.[^1] In fact of course settled hunter gatherers, so to call them, have been known for decades, e.g. Jomon Japan; this isn't the issue anywhere.

Some of the spectacular phenomena and constructions they attempt to explain depend on non-settlement for much of the year. But in temperate regions even in the eurasian ice age we find seasonal congregation of huge populations in conditions of temporary abundance e.g. salmon runs, seasonal migration of game through narrow alpine chasms, etc. A leading motif is that in these congregations surprising phenomena can emerge e.g. insane stone works, temporary political structure, etc. Thus also the discussion of ice-age burials like that in Sunghir Russia 30,000 years ago a couple boys buried with "10,000 hand-carved mammoth ivory beads, fox teeth pendants, and finely crafted mammoth ivory spears"

[^1]: https://eprints.lse.ac.uk/62756/1/__lse.ac.uk_storage_LIBRAR...


>Graeber has been dead for years.

Yeah I have been trying to "was" him as much as possible.

>Your references post date their work

Yep but theres no conspiracy to hide these facts that only the brave Graeber can explain through the medium of book sales.

>Jomon Japan

Yeah I am faintly remembering something about their giant burial cairns or something.


> It’s a lot like guilt by association

What would you think of someone who works for KGB (now FSB) and propagandizes the values of USSR (or modern Russia)?

secondly: CIA job is exactly promote the image of a "liberal, nonviolent and honorable” agency, while killing thousands people to overthrown elected governments just because uncle Sam did not like them...


I don't think he's been literal about ethnic cleansing, even though I strongly disagree with his political views on the matter.

Anyway, he also supports open weights models, which IMO is a good thing.

So maybe separate the artist from the art? He's not running for elections, that's for sure, so as a citizen he can have the political views he likes, doesn't mean the software is bad because of them.


He calls for removal of people based on their ethnicity. What would you call that?


Ethnicity or citizenship?


The word he uses is a pejorative for the Romani, an ethnicity.


As I've said before, I strongly disagree, but what I read is that he calls for the removal of those behaving in a way that (in his opinion) make the city of Copenhagen less safe, or at least that change the perceived security of the people living there.

Gypsies create issues almost everywhere in Europe, but it's not based on ethnicity, most of the ethnic Roma are fully integrated, some of them are not, in Italy many Sinte families are linked to mob and criminality in general.

Do they deserve special treatment because of their ethnicity?

And what if they are not regular citizens?

It's an open problem, DHH's solutions it's absolutely not my solution, but there's a still a difference between what he said and calling for ethnic cleansing.


He supports systematic violence against marginalized ethnicities, but he also supports open weight models.

or as dril put it

drink driving may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time, so, it;s impossible to say if its bad or not,


> drink driving may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time, so, it;s impossible to say if its bad or not,

that's a non sequitur

"that guy is not against driving under the influence, but he also always wears seatbelts and always respects speed limits" FTFY


> always fixing something or dealing with breakage from an update.

literally the experience that Mac was always known for


TBH, MacOS 8 and 9 were not that well regarded.


> Rust has shown that extensive safety checks can be applied at compile time with zero runtime overhead.

at the cost of developing time and workarounds overhead.

> And, if it's not possible to prove this statically - you should be heavily questioning the security of that code.

or that's exactly the compromise that allows you to develop that software

there is no 100% safety with zero overhead

it is not possible


The claim was runtime cost

> the competing language will have a runtime cost, which often is unacceptable.

The problem you now mention

> at the cost of developing time and workarounds overhead.

Also happens with plain c and the "pay attention" method.


> Also happens with plain c and the "pay attention" method.

not really

there are decades of well known practices to basically cover every possible scenario

the point is Rust doesn't allow to write certain kinds of code or use certain patterns

it's the cost of the boilerplate

it's not that it is hard, it's that it is tedious

and if we throw LLM at the problem, well, we're not talking about 100% safety anymore


> at the cost of developing time and workarounds overhead.

Let me rephrase: you are saying that tedious following of best practices (using or not certain kinds of code or use or certain patterns) does not take extra time in c, but rust (compiler) not allowing to write certain kinds of code or use certain patterns does take extra time.


You can totally make money if people use your tool

It's companies using your tool that don't want to give back to the people


> Zig, like C, is simply not a robust language

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" -- Carl Sagan


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