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It doesn't seem like you are looking for an honest discussion.

A sentence saying that the number of immigrants went up is not proof of the claim you made that: "the Democratic party is the one that wants to let in US as many illegal immigrants as possible."

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How hypocritical of you to say "doesn't seem like you are looking for an honest discussion" and then go on to claim that the number of immigrants merely "went up" when the source clearly states it was the highest, "the most"

Then you claim again "tHaT dOeSn'T pRoVe AnYtHiNg"

Let's look specifically at the tally of illegal migrants under Biden: +7.3 million net illegal migrants

And during Trump's first term? It's -34,000 (yes, that's a negative number)

How about the tally for Obama's second term? That's +493,000 net illegal migrants

Numbers and facts speak for themselves, but you speak a different language


>And during Trump's first term? It's -34,000 (yes, that's a negative number)

And during Obama's first term it was -653,000 (yes, that's a far larger negative number).

Bush's full 8 years had higher immigration than Obama's 8 years. Obama also deported more people than Trump [1]. Do you allow those numbers and facts to speak for themselves? Because when I read them, I don't hear them saying: "the Democratic party is the one that wants to let in US as many illegal immigrants as possible." Your initial claim that you still haven't backed up in any meaningful way.

[1] https://www.wlrn.org/government-politics/2024-01-04/desantis...


The examples you give are more than 15 years old.

Somehow you believe that evidence that's more than 15 years old should take precedence to what happened after that? Biden's term ended less than 20 months ago, I think that's far far more relevant.

My claim is very well proven by the most recent data, you keep insisting you want some sort of official statement "we the Dems want at least 30 million more illegal immigrants". Even other leftist that commented here agree with me that the numbers look bad for the Dems.

As I said, numbers and facts speak for themselves. You keep claiming "tHaT dOeSn'T pRoVe AnYtHiNg", which is funny. Shows you're brainwashed.

Your logic is basically "someone that rapes women without officially declaring he's a rapist, is not really a rapist, because he didn't officially declare it".




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