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I hope it's not fully lost, I hate when people play music in public and don't have a good answer about filming people in public with these glasses but I don't want it.

Honestly making it socially unacceptable is probably the only solution. Not sure how that happens though...



Play Disney songs on your phone, they won't be able to use the footage.


You can't make it illegal. The first amendment protects it.

Trying to police the shape of the camera is silly.


First amendment doesn't mean anything goes...for example, protesting has a time, place, and manner restrictions, even though you would at first glance think any restriction on protesting would be illegal.


> You can't make it illegal. The first amendment protects it.

I'm not a legal expert but the first amendment doesn't generally give the right to secretly record people, especially in places where there are already laws about hidden cameras, recording, privacy, etc.

It's not about the shape as much as the intention and execution.


Perhpas they were talking about blasting music in public spaces.

In which case, the First Amendment still probably wouldn't apply, unless we're talking about laws against specific musical content, since content-neutral restrictictions on public speech are broadly legal.


I think the relevant law is the fourth amendment, settled in Katz v. United States in 1967:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_expectation_of_priv...


I'm not a USian but doesn't the first amendment apply to restrictions by the state?

It also doesn't protect from any consequences of your free speech of course.


Not endorsing OP's POV, but OP specifically talked about legal consequences. Legality is something the state defines.


> Trying to police the shape of the camera is silly.

Why?


> The first amendment protects it.

The 1st Amendment does not apply to private property. Property owners, even owners of public utilities, can absolutely set boundaries and trespass people. In some states, property owners can literally shoot trespassers to death.


Yes, but the top post said "Public spaces". Private property isn't a public space.

In the case of truly public spaces, historically it's considered that other then in very specific situations (bathrooms for example) you have no expectations of privacy and can be recorded regardless of the shape of the camera.

On private spaces, which people constantly mix up with public spaces, you're absolutely correct that it is able to be restricted and can define very granularly what's acceptable. A plane is a private space. They can restrict anything they want (limited by protected class/characteristics in the US. Other countries may vary).


People have a right to enjoyment of public spaces with out having creepers filming them.


The problem is that such a “right” is not yet established in U.S. law.


It doesn't apply in most of the world in any case.


A lot of jurisdictions have some sort of provisions for open taking of photos and videos, for freedom of assembly and for freedom of speech.




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