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What's savage is what Japan does to drug users and dealers. If the west did the same, we'd be a lot cleaner, too, since washrooms wouldn't be open door fentanyl naptime rooms. But at what cost?

For what it's worth I think a middle ground leaning closer to the west is the best approach. Save injection sites like the one in Vancouver have been a disaster, however



I live in Europe and public restrooms don’t feel like fentanyl naptime rooms. Maybe that’s more of a North America thing?


I can only speak for Vancouver. New West, specifically, which is probably more crack-denny than other areas. But yeah, even Starbucks will hang fake "out of order" signs on the door because it's guaranteed to become an impromptu vein shooting gallery at some point during the day.


This happens in Europe, too. In Finland, in several towns it is not unusual for (the most nondiscriminating) public restrooms to be used for heroin injection, with the needle then disposed of in the toilet bowl, preventing the next visitor from using it and making the cleaner's job even more unpleasant. I am sure this has happened in Germany at least at some points in history when some cities were internationally infamous for heroin.


Cool story bro. Heroin use is practically nonexistent in Finland, opioid addicts use cheaper and easier to obtain alternatives.


I don't claim to know drugs well, but if it is being injected and causing a problem for public toilet operators, security, and cleaning staff, I just assume "heroin" because that is what people know. If you are more informed about substances, inform us here, too.


It’s buprenorphine


Sounds good to me! Fuck drug users, why should they get to trash public spaces for the rest of us.


You call it savage, but the result is more civilized. Why should we settle for a middle ground? Why should we negotiate with degenerates who can't even be trusted with a toilet?

There is nothing savage about the way Japan treats those who are incompatible with civilization. On the contrary, to parley with the savages is what makes you a savage too.


Huh? What do you think I said here? The point you attack doesn't appear to resemble anything I (1) meant to say and (2) actually said.


The comment you're replying to appears to be responding to the comment made by shoobiedoo in response to what you originally said. It makes sense in this context, whether or not you agree with the position.




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