But there isn’t a good reason to think that since countries such as Italy, UK, F...

T-A · 2026-10-17T23:11:27 1792278687

From [1], in 2025 government net debt / GDP for the countries mentioned was:

Germany 47.2 USA 96.7 France 108.8 Italy 127.7

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_governmen...

ericmay · 2026-10-17T23:41:40 1792280500

I didn’t mention Germany, not that it’s bad to include it. But unlike the others the US has a growing economy.

T-A · 2026-10-18T00:56:30 1792284990

Ooops, sorry. Let's throw in the UK too then, and do real GDP growth too (latest data from [2]):

Germany 47.2; 1.3

UK 93.8; 1.3

USA 96.7; 2.3

France 108.8; 0.4

Italy 127.7; 0.8

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_...

ericmay · 2026-10-18T02:58:18 1792292298

Thanks for posting and I do mean it. I hope my post didn’t come across snarky I really don’t mind the inclusion of Germany there. :)

cowlevel · 2026-10-18T13:09:41 1792328981

Growing in nominal or real terms? Which numbers did you use for inflation adjustment, because the official ones are very questionable?

ericmay · 2026-10-18T14:23:23 1792333403

> Growing in nominal or real terms?

Either. You can check major sources (WSJ, Financial Times, &c.)

> because the official ones are very questionable?

I trust the institution regardless of what party is in power.

herbst · 2026-10-18T07:31:44 1792308704

What makes you think they are are worse financial positions? Propaganda around here makes it sound the US is very close to collapsing

ericmay · 2026-10-18T11:42:26 1792323746

> What makes you think they are are worse financial positions?

Broadly speaking: low growth, high debt, aging populations, aging infrastructure, and very intense economic pressure from countries like the US and China, but also increasing competition with the rising of other countries for global resources.