I think you are going to get a lot of pushback from people using e.g. typescript...

speed_spread · 2026-10-06T13:44:45 1791294285

Considering that Kotlin is their own invention and that it exists mainly to schmooze people onto their platform I sure hope they're ahead with it!

BadBadJellyBean · 2026-10-06T17:00:00 1791306000

Kotlin is actually a pretty nice language, especially compared to Java. I love how they have null checking as a central feature.

speed_spread · 2026-10-07T12:03:57 1791374637

IMO it's an overengineered sloppy mess. It adds too many bells and whistles without taking away anything. Nul checking is about the only serious feature it has. The rest is chrome and bling. It's "ricer" Java.

RunSet · 2026-10-06T17:59:57 1791309597

Reading Jetbrains' EULA makes me think it would be an easier read if they just listed the entities they would NOT share your data with.

vscodium[0] might require some aftermarket bells and whistles to reach feature parity with jetbrains' "swiss army kitchen sink" approach but at least vscodium is not data-mining me.

[0] https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium

chrisandchris · 2026-10-06T13:44:13 1791294253

Pretty good is pretty bad for a tool I use most of my day.