1) Stop conflating criticism of the state of Israel to antisemitism. There are many orthodox Jews that oppose zionism and the state of Israel.
One could argue that supporting the state of Israel as it currently stands and behaves is antisemitic, judging by the fact that its actions create huge negative sentiment about it and international isolation.
2) Stop creating new throwaway accounts in a transparent attempt to astroturf
If you read it again you will see that I did not say that ultra orthodox jews are nazis, but a subset of those (the settlers) behave like nazis. Perpetuating the circle of violence.
Hope you had fun going through 5 months of my comments to find something you can complain about.
> If you read it again you will see that I did not say that ultra orthodox jews are nazis, but a subset of those (the settlers) behave like nazis. Perpetuating the circle of violence.
You appear to be somewhat implying that the settlers which are engaging in violence are mostly Ultra-Orthodox(Haredi) Jews. Which is weird since only about 30% of settlers are Ultra-Orthodox and they tend to mostly reside in settlements along the Green Line(which are generally the least problematic type of settlement) for mostly economic reasons. The Ultra-Orthodox also generally try and avoid military service and don't typically engage in violent clashes with Palestinians. I don't know why you seem to be blaming a group that is largely trying to avoid IDF service for "the circle of violence", they tend to clash mostly with Israeli police if anything when protesting against mandatory conscription.[0]
The group you're probably thinking of that causes a lot of the problems by deliberately picking fights(i.e those in outpost settlements that are typically illegal even under Israeli law) when you think of settlers are more National-Religious(Dati Leumi).
First you have to define Zionism if you want any to make your argument. Criticism is one thing. Wanting to wipe out the one Jewish nation with the majority of the worlds Jews lives could very well be antismtic.
Bullshit on your other pint.One could not in good faith argue that Jews being judged by the actions of one country is legitimate no matter what, and can't be a basis to try and twist antisemitism. But you know that.
Zionism is the belief that Israel should exist. This whole "one jewish nation" stuff is ridiculous. Scientologists don't have a nation and they don't have a right to go genocide indigenous people to make one.
I won't be responding anymore to this thread since you're not arguing in good faith.
It's confusing because "Jewish" has both a religious and ethnic meaning depending on the context, while "Scientologist" would generally only have a religious meaning. This distinction is the source of a lot of confusion.
> they don't have a right to go genocide indigenous people to make one
I don't think anyone here is arguing that any group has the right to genocide any other group of people to create a new state, that is a straw man argument.
The actual arguments would be that war is not a genocide in addition to the fact that Jews are historically indigenous to the region. Israel also already exists so this isn't a matter of making a new state.
One could argue that supporting the state of Israel as it currently stands and behaves is antisemitic, judging by the fact that its actions create huge negative sentiment about it and international isolation.
2) Stop creating new throwaway accounts in a transparent attempt to astroturf