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yet muslims dont drink and are habitually on their phones, with no issues reproducing.


I actually think lack of religion is one of the major reasons for a declining birth rate. The church was an important third space.

Even now in the Korean-American community, the running joke is that if one suddenly starts going to church in their 20s, it's only because they're looking for a romantic partner.


Muslims also, as a generalization, have richer regular socialization opportunities via religion.

If the bar was the primary Western common area ("Where everybody knows your name..."), then its disuse leaves nothing to replace it.


Between men and men. Not at all between men and women


Put a bunch of men together, and a bunch of women together, and they'll find a way to put a man and a woman together.

Life... uh... finds a way.


The "Bangladesh Miracle" says otherwise: by intensive effort the birth rate was brought down from 6.7 to 1.89.

(people keep forgetting how much reducing population growth and teenage pregnancy has been an explicit policy goal for decades! Getting it down to replacement rate is good, now we're arguing about the other direction needlessly)


That's because they have arranged marriages, and Muslim women have no choice in the matter. Men don't need to be good at socializing with women to reproduce when women are treated as property.




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