I wish HN was more of a reliable aggregator and not just people protecting their industry at all cost

You can reliably tell what the most upvoted comments will be

Does that mean we should always hate on big tech? No. If a platform is getting unfairly targeted, that's nice to know. But you come here to get the general sense of the landscape and the first comment is always slanted in favor of big corporate

> Bad execution doesn't make the idea wrong

It does raise the question of the value of California’s bureaucratic burden.

Nobody's asking for more bureaucracy, they're asking for these companies to be held properly accountable, which will involve bureaucracy.

Nobody's asking for computers that use a lot of electricity, they're asking for powerful computers, which will use a lot of electricity. You can't just turn up with a space heater and pretend it's the same thing because it also uses a lot of electricity.

Bureaucrats are absolutely asking for more bureaucratic systems. The incentive is clear

I don't think I've ever seen that. Lobbyists and legislators, absolutely.

But my experience is that admins mostly want the rules to be clear and simple.

Is the incentive genuine? Is it load-bearing?

> Nobody's asking for more bureaucracy

Very few are also asking for less bureaucracy, which in this case could potentially increase state capacity to pursue civic goals.

Indeed, nobody here is asking for less bureaucracy in regard to this situation because it wouldn't solve anything.

What is the actual problem being solved though?

That Facebook sells a lot of data

what's all the cut the red tape talk from _insert lots of groups/demographics here_ then?

This is the Ayn Rand trick; let's make government not work == government can never work well == let's cut all customer protections and end up with unfit for consumption beef and glass in your food == somehow it's still not the fault of the free market since after enough people get sick I guess they'll leave one star reviews on Google from their hospital beds == companies will self regulate to produce healthier food?

Bloat is real. One can simplify an organization while making it more effective. California broadly seems to be in the overcomplicated/ineffective quadrant.

Bloat is real. The point is if there's a regulation that should stop glass contamination in food and it doesn't then the answer isn't 'too much red tape, see?'.

It's that there's clearly been industry capture and the regulations no longer work. It doesn't mean the regulations themselves are automatically the problem.

It also doesn't mean every regulation is good or should exist, but that's not an argument I see anyone actually making. Only some people like to pretend like someone is making that argument, because the actual argument is harder to argue against.

"... seems to be ..."

Compared to what? Your string of comments are banal generalities that may or may not apply to this particular situation. Where else in this world at this time, is this particular governmental failing handled materially better?

Singapore? China? Russia? Switzerland? England?

I have sometimes learned interesting things from you (as a commenter) but there is nothing to learn here. It appears to be only diversion and distraction.

Perhaps. But you’d be more persuasive if you proposed ways to achieve the same or more effective controls over corporate abuses, just more efficiently. Instead you come across as a baby/bathwater proponent.