You are repeatedly saying they spy on their users? Prove it. Then prove t he other ai companies don't. Then prove that the service they offered to the US government didn't have spying disabled.
"Then prove that the service they offered to the US government didn't have spying disabled."
the service they offered did have spying disabled. the security risk is from anthropic updating the claude and covertly bricking or degrading it.
quote: "In such an ongoing relationship where the vendor [...] “continuously update[s] and tune[s] the product,” the Department must establish and maintain confidence that the vendor will not add limitations
that interfere with the Department’s use of the product." (p26)
"the Department relies
on [petitioner] to provide regular updates to Claude" (p27)
All of these said they keep data 30 days and xai even said furthermore it can decide to keep data for even longer. You also said the version they provided to the government had spying disabled, the complaint that the govt made seems a thin excuse for what trump wanted as any and all major AI models are subject to constant updates.
They're talking like Amazon Bedrock doesn't exist, which is exactly the service which provides private data and processing for models including Claude.
But also they quite clearly have no idea how classified information systems work: air gapping is step 1 of that process, and no one from Anthropic would be working on those systems without a security clearance.
there is no private processing for recent claude models. there is no fable in IL5 or IL6.
bedrock IL5, nvidia, palantir and booz allen have all blocked fable.
anthropic is demanding that they rat out their customers on anything better than opus 5.
see: [thein.fo/4dekujW]
also, bedrock govcloud does both log and review customer data. specifically, they log and review customer data when it is flagged by their csam classifier.
That article is locked behind subscription. These are private companies, and presumably not running the model on their own systems but are using an interface to the model hosted on Anthropics machine I would presume. So their decision to decline is different from the us govt which will have gotten special privileges.
From what I am reading the IL6 and IL7 wasn't granted by the DoD out of nonsensical reasons, it wasn't even allowed to go through the certification process, in fact during the very course of its negotiations for military use of Anthropic. Anthropic never required any remote control or line to the deployment, they only requested there be human oversight before murder. The government prevented it from going through the certification tests using the exact nonsense excuse this case is about culminating in the case. So your claims of spyware are completely muddled and nonsense. 'Spyware' is an extremely absurd and over the top claim. It is a plain and naked lie.
for now it's spyware. there is no way for anyone to get fable without anthropic spying. so there is no fable IL5. there is opus 5 or below.
it is anthropic alone deciding to rat out fable customers.
i am not making this up or lying, everything i claim is verifiable.
anthropic would likely have turned off the spyware for the dod. regardless the dod did not trust them to maintain claude with updates etc.
that is a lot to do with anthropic undermining dod by getting involved with safety at dod contractors (palantir).
going behind the boss and plotting was a bad idea.
it does not help the matter if the bidder rocks up to the pentagon for a $200m contract, with a troupe of bay area ea clowns who say that they don't know if claude is conscious and talk about saving the world from p(doom).
in a battle of ego between trump and amodei the latter is out of their depth. amodei is a newcomer starting a fight with a hardened criminal who has spent years amassing power over the media, the law and the republican party. anthropic are radically outgunned here.
No. You made up the term spyware, the US government stamped a Supply chain risk on anthropic without even letting them get certified, and there is no mention of spyware there. You are making up complete utter nonsense. I have never seen the term spyware used anywhere else in relation to Anthropic. A data retention policy, which your own link shows is also shared with xAI is not spyware. You are a plain liar. You are repeating this absurd lie of Anthropic being 'spyware' everywhere. You again made up nonsense about Palantir, all I can see is Palantir comes under the same case, Anthropic's original stipulations and their objection whether Palantir is following it or not. It has nothing at all regarding spyware. You are trying to blow up one singular point, the DoD's sudden U turn and forcible and false application of a status to appear to be several different unrelated events, and muddling up the cause and effect timeline too. The term spyware is completely absurd for a mere data retention policy. Spyware would be if they are adding trojans or other software to illicitly extract data from them, not publicly stated policy. It is beyond absurd and beyond the point of clownish insanity to call Anthropic spyware, to the extent one begins to doubt if there is any english or technical term that you don't have an alternative personal weird interpretation of. How is the matter of the AI being conscious or not a clownish concept? Do you believe in 'souls' and that non-human things cant have souls? Do you think there is supernatural magic inside our brains? In your comment history you seem to have a strange obsession with Anthropic, blatantly making up absurd things like them using obfuscations in their thought process logs and accusing them of various unverified and strange things without evidence.
the xAI models are available with no human review per TOS 3.4 'Deletion and Retention of User Content'. therefore it is not the same as the anthropic tos. [https://x.ai/legal/terms-of-service-enterprise]
But my question is unless you are privy to the negotiations happening behind closed doors with DoD, how do you know Anthropic was not making modifications to it, I doubt even the other AI companies have not had to change some things when providing the secret DoD model deployment.
Secondly you have made an absurd over the top exaggeration and blatant lies about Anthropics interaction with Palantir. You literally said Anthropic "ratted out" Palantir, a language that indicates Anthropic had some secret access to Palantir or made public something that wasn't already known. The partnership between anthropic and palantir was completely public and announced by the very same comapnies before the maduro case. And as far as public statements are known, Anthropic seems to have a specific idea of what kinds of jobs their model should be used for, and they clearly stated from start they didn't like its use for violence or violence without human oversight. They phoned Palantir as any partner would have a right to, for confirming if it was being used for killing or violence during the Maduro mission.
Your link anout summarization of thought has a line right at the end of the section where it says if the raw thought logs are required, to contact their sales team, so it is clearly a negotiable point.
How is the belief or not of ai consciousness clownish? It is a valid and pertinent question in general about all models and not just for Claude regardless of your perceived imaginary views of Anthropic.
>i spend a good amount of time on anthropic because i think that anthropic specifically, is uniquely dangerous to society and human welfare.
Here we are in moral not legal territory. So it is completely absurd to say that in a conversation right here discussing far worse companies eg Palantir CEO saying they are proud in supporting Israel's violent invasions and mass murders into its surrounding countries. Anthropic, as subject to our very discussion, is the only company among the big AI companies that seems to want to have limited dealings with the military and oversight over violent military use. They also seem to be the only major company that brings up the important question of AI consciousness. If you think Anthropic is more evil than the US government and military who has already illicilty killed millions in made up wars, then I have nothing to say. Anthropic from all that appears seems to be one of the most moral of the companies of similar scale. The only way you think Anthropic is uniquely dangerous to society is if you think mass surveillance and mass killing is great and the use of powerful AI's to assist in mass murder is even better, and opposition to these is evil. I cannot begin to think of the upside down mentality that leads to such a downright bizarre thought process.
