based on what? there's so many sources noting their anti-EV lobbying

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/toyota-actively-lobbies-agai...

https://thedriven.io/2026/06/17/japan-car-giants-still-pushi...

https://blog.ucs.org/dave-reichmuth/why-does-toyota-oppose-c...

and here's their CEO going on a tirade about Japan's EV-adoption mandate: https://evannex.com/blogs/news/puzzled-by-toyota-ceo-s-anti-...

People who have vested interest will make such accusations.

I own EVs but I am opposed to "mandates", opposing coercion makes you anti coercion not the objective of coercion.

you read the articles, correct? the ones where they are actively supporting climate-change denying, pro-January 6th Republicans who are actively working on repealing CAFE, emissions standards, and other climate protective standards?

also the accusation of 'vested interest' is very funny to me as someone who is proverbially hiding all his liquidity under a mattress (ie bonds) until this AI bubble pops and whose sources are 1) a non-profit and 2) a Union of Concerned Scientists blog

Anyone can write a blog and they can write anything they want there. There's no more value in those links than in a Reddit comment.

so you'd treat an academic reference text on chemistry as just as prone to bias and as worthless as a reddit comment?

if you have other sources that talk about how great Toyota is, that'd be wonderful

Or even an HN comment, for that matter.

Toyota isn't so much pro-internal combustion as pro-hydrogen. They bet on the wrong horse -- a really stupid horse -- and it cost them heavily.

> They bet on the wrong horse -- a really stupid horse -- and it cost them heavily

How? Toyota has been the best selling automaker for the last six years straight:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/toyota...

In 2025 Toyota had record sales.

their total ledger might be fine but it's not like their R&D just came free out of the good will of thousands of people

All marketing, my dude.

They were AMAZINGLY anti-EV a few years ago. They couldn't shut the heck up about hydrogen being endgame and even shipped a flagship car that used the technology to prove it. (It barely sold, you couldn't refuel it outside of the Bay Area and the entire program was eventually written off.)

I don't believe either of those statements.