They can investigate all they want, they can even detain you briefly, but if you...

matheusmoreira · 2026-09-18T23:01:32 1789772492

And if you're not a citizen?

iamnothere · 2026-09-19T00:13:39 1789776819

Then this does not apply. Best to consult a lawyer

CamperBob2 · 2026-09-18T20:09:40 1789762180

They have more guns than you do, and these days, most of the judges are blindly and shamelessly on their side. They don't "have" to do jack.

iamnothere · 2026-09-18T20:29:59 1789763399

You’re fearmongering. Despite what some may say, it’s not Nazi Germany. Rule of law still has sway.

Find me caselaw where a “basic” phone was used as valid evidence. Or where the phone was already empty when someone began to approach the border.

CamperBob2 · 2026-09-18T23:12:14 1789773134

Rule of law still has sway.

Get back to me once the Good and Pretti homicides in Minneapolis have been prosecuted.

iamnothere · 2026-09-19T02:08:29 1789783709

I said that it still has sway, not that it’s perfect. Your position basically amounts to “hide in bed and hope they don’t come for you”.

CamperBob2 · 2026-09-19T03:31:13 1789788673

My position is that what happened to them could happen to you or me.

You don't seem concerned, though. So that's good. I guess.

otterley · 2026-09-19T19:32:30 1789846350

The question isn’t whether something is merely possible. You could get struck by a moving ambulance tomorrow.

It’s about how likely something is.

CamperBob2 · 2026-09-21T16:50:03 1790009403

Getting more likely every year.

tokai · 2026-09-18T20:46:37 1789764397

Rule of Law was very strong in Nazi Germany. Everything that regime did was legal in Germany at the time.

iamnothere · 2026-09-19T02:11:58 1789783918

If you really believe that the two are equivalent, I hope you’re taking action right now and not just posting on HN. Otherwise that would certainly speak poorly of your character.

tombert · 2026-09-18T21:05:32 1789765532

I mean they'll shoot protesters execution-style and retroactively declare that person a terrorist before they've even done any investigations.

It's not Nazi Germany, but this administration has certainly demonstrated that they're not above inventing reasons to justify their actions later.

iamnothere · 2026-09-19T02:10:32 1789783832

Despite the problems, this stuff is still a rarity among most people. And most people understand that.

It’s obviously getting worse, but that’s not a reason to give up all hope.

tombert · 2026-09-19T02:50:45 1789786245

I don't think I disagree with anything you said. I think cynicism is lazy.