A model that was introduced a few days ago that's LLM-based, but instead of prod...

baobabKoodaa · 2026-09-18T12:59:01 1789736341

It's a closed model and they claim that it's not LLM-based, so I'm not sure why you are claiming that it is LLM-based.

brazukadev · 2026-09-18T13:00:07 1789736407

where is the claim it is not LLM-based? The claim I saw is that it is not chat-based but still text-based (JSON).

baobabKoodaa · 2026-09-18T13:31:57 1789738317

In the link of the comment I was responding to, they explicitly say that Jev is not LLM-based:

> Is Jev just a smaller LLM?

> Jev is neither small nor an LLM, hence being off the intelligence Pareto curve.

brazukadev · 2026-09-18T13:42:42 1789738962

Sounds like BS for me. Jev is transformed-based, trained on language/texts, it receives text inputs and output text (json).

Jev is a language model. It doesn't matter if it is not a "smaller LLM" or not LLM by some weird definition.

baobabKoodaa · 2026-09-18T14:19:48 1789741188

> output text

according to the people who made Jev, it does NOT output text. it's a closed model, so we can't inspect the internals, but i would just take their word for it.

just because the API responds with JSON text, does not mean that the underlying model is generating JSON text.

FergusArgyll · 2026-09-18T16:31:21 1789749081

Yeah, it outputs probabilities over the options you give it. It's basically a generalizable classifier.