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Absolutely. If someone makes the weights do continuous learning etc then perhaps an llm can internalise morals. Of course, just like a human, it will be possible to talk it out of those morals. Another recent thread about this is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49744420
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If I repeatedly call an LLM in a loop with a markdown document it can edit, would that make it qualify for you?

If I give an LLM to compact its context window, so the context it carries can evolve iteratively over time as more and more things come in, is that enough?

Compacting the context is really a very, very interesting example here. The "next token predictor" is telling an external tool to change all "previous" tokens. So an LLM + a harness that allows compacting the context is no longer just a token predictor at all!

You don't need continuous learning to get interesting dynamics. You just need feedback loops.


I come back to this way after everyone else has stopped reading. But it’s been making me think.

Richard Dawkins says he thinks LLMs think.

And the physical angle is that nothing is special about humans and software simulating it would also be thinking.

But from using LLMs all the time, and understanding what is under the hood, I’m thinking that the current approaches aren’t cutting it for me and I’m not expecting them to get there. There was such big jumps early on but progress is slowing as though diminishing returns.

So we can build things that think and outthink us, but I don’t think anything we’ve hit upon yet is going to scale up into it.




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