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I agree they’re kinda weird but are they really that bad?
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is dying really so bad compared to admitting that you were wrong and some weirdo was right?

for many people the answer seems to be: not really.


Yes.

Their core belief system is morally abhorrent.


What about their beliefs is morally abhorrent?

Yes. Sam Bankman Fried was/is an EA/rationalist (on the short list of biggest fraudsters in American history). So are the Zizian's (a murder cult). etc. etc.

SBF maybe, but Ziz declared rationalists to be their main enemy

Yeah, similar to like how southern baptists declared evangelicals to be their enemy too for not being fanatical enough.

Death cults are weird like that.


And? The Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks were both socialist factions who were coming from the same intellectual milieu, and they killed each other.

They also killed lots of unrelated people. Let's not take the argument far enough to claim that everyone who was ever killed by socialists must have been a socialist, too.

Perhaps the author of the article is a rationalist, too. He certainly knows too much about them, cares too much, and the fact that he criticizes them only shows that there is some infighting among them.


>Let's not take the argument far enough to claim that everyone who was ever killed by socialists must have been a socialist, too.

Well it's a good thing I only mentioned the two groups who were explicitly socialists!


I don’t see why I would judge a whole group based on isolated examples?



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