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>but the alternatives are worse

It's not that "alternatives are worse, it's that xmpp is a broken protocol, which doesn't include support for anything, even such a basic thing"

>There's a draft

LOOOOOOOOL



XMPP was not designed for human chat only, and XMPP foundation promotes it as an IoT communication protocol, like MQTT. Thanks to Daniel, the author of this post, we now have communication profiles which the IM-oriented servers and clients follow.


>XMPP foundation promotes it as an IoT communication protocol, like MQTT

Which means that it will never work for human messaging, due to all the IoT cruft.

>Thanks to Daniel, the author of this post, we now have communication profiles which the IM-oriented servers and clients follow.

LOL, he only implemented p2p transfers when it bit himself in the tail on a plane flight.

Conversations is the best of them all, but it doesn't mean that it is good.


I use XMPP almost exclusively for the last 10 years and don't see any major issues, not with the protocol, not with the clients. Everything is pretty reliable and works fine.


Yeah, me too. Even my mom agrees to use it, because she loves me. But it's a "worksforme" fallacy.




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