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  This might potentially
  rejuvenate the writing
  by disrupting habitual
  patterns, which forces
  more original choices.


  Deliberate distractions
  from the functional end
  goal benefit other arts
  just as well, promoting
  lateral thinking. Brian
  Eno made a card deck of
  "oblique strategies" to
  help you out of blocks.
https://enoshop.co.uk/products/oblique-strategies


  Imagine a messageboard that
  required this writing style
  in order to make any posts!


  Including the making of the posts
  into nice rectangular portions of
  each thirty three characters wide ?

  Not including the double space at
  the beginning of each line or any
  of the punctuation character ends .


Could be a saving grace in the age where the robots come up with all the copy.


Robots would excel at writing that sort of copy I’d assume. (I haven’t tested it but doubt an LLM couldn’t handle that)


I suspect LLMs would actually struggle significantly with doing it consistently if given purely as a prompt instruction, but you could always constrict the sampling to force words that create a legitimate chain or fine tune / RL in some signal that would assist with it.


An raw LLM no, but given code execution it can do a good job. I had my Claude Sonnet write a sonnet in this form after 14 rounds of iteration with Python:

The autumn wind moves slow across the field,

and every falling leaf now yields its fight.

The summer gold at last has ceased to yield,

and short days now give way to longer night.

I walk alone beside a calm and quiet stream,

and watch it slowly carry every fallen leaf.

I think of you as some half-forgotten dream,

and taste again that same old, bitter grief.

The silent stars come out to watch it still,

and pale moonlight falls gently on the hill.

A lonesome owl calls out from past the mill,

and time moves on, unhurried and calm, until

the dawn returns to paint the sky brand new,

and I still recall the love I lost with you.


Monospace formatting: start each line with two spaces to get monospace (and then you won't need double linebreaks).


Not bad, but the meter gets corrupted


For clarity:

  The autumn wind moves slow across the field,
  and every falling leaf now yields its fight.
  The summer gold at last has ceased to yield,
  and short days now give way to longer night.
  I walk alone beside a calm and quiet stream,
  and watch it slowly carry every fallen leaf.
  I think of you as some half-forgotten dream,
  and taste again that same old, bitter grief.
  The silent stars come out to watch it still,
  and pale moonlight falls gently on the hill.
  A lonesome owl calls out from past the mill,
  and time moves on, unhurried and calm, until
  the dawn returns to paint the sky brand new,
  and I still recall the love I lost with you.


"perhaps it would be best to let the browsers do it on screens, and typesetting software for printed materials, since they have access to the font, size, text region boundaries, it comes at the small cost that users don't actually get to read what an author wrote, but increasingly this is an LLM anyways, if its a website or legal contract alike"


And here I at first thought the direction the original post was going was "here's how I got a LLM to do this automatically". Seems like it would not be so difficult. Might still be be a win over their innate dispositions.


Tom 7 did something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y65FRxE7uMc

> BoVeX gives us a controlled tradeoff between these two states. By changing how much it costs for the text to be semantically wrong, we have a dial that allows us to smoothly interpolate between Lorem Epsom and Donald Knuth.


it's unbelievable this was not pointed out earlier in this thread, long live tom 7




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