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It’s wild to accuse people who are anti pollution of being anti ai, look how fucked the climate is, people don’t want to see it more fucked , is that hard to understand ?


It's not hard to understand. What's hard to understand is why when I bring up how cars are literally orders of magnitude larger polluters and how we need to eradicate personal car use, people suddenly stop caring about pollution, and continue to beat the anti-AI drum.

See: they were anti-AI the whole time, and pollution was just an attempt at supporting their anti-AI argument.


I guess you’ve never heard of electric cars and rooftop solar ?


AI doesn't rub rubber on asphalt at 70 mph. Did you know that?

Electric cars and ICE cars both use more watts than AI. If you're concern is energy consumption, cars are worse. If your concern is pollution, cars are worse. Do you care about pollution and energy consumption, or do you honestly just hate AI? It's okay if you just hate AI, but be honest about it.


Back to the original objection from me, it's fine to object to data centers of being concerned for the environment. You can even like AI and still realize that we need to make sure the data centers are being powered by low / zero emission technologies.

Because as you obviously can tell, it's totally ridiculous to suggest people give up their primary mode of transport so people can have data centers instead.

The people who grow your food aren't going to be doing that on a bus. The people who build and run data centers need cars to do it.


I never suggested people should abandon cars for AI, I think people should abandon their primary mode of transportation for the same arguments that people usually make against AI. Cars have the same negative effects times 10 per person who uses it, and a lot moe people are addicted to cars than AI. And that's before we mention things like the massive amount of straight up violence cars induce that is swept under the rug as inevitable.

I'm not sure what you think farmers need personal cars for? Tractors and trains seem like they'd do literally anything you could imagine a farmer "needing" a car for?


Not sure if you're serious but maybe checkout some YT videos on farming to see what's involved...

Tractors are crazy slow, and it's obviously stupidly inefficient to have trains running into every rural area just for the off chance a farmer needs to go pickup some hay, which by the way would usually go onto the back of a lorry.




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