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The whole nerfing narrative puts in the spotlight now crazy supertitions come into being. The group think every day that everything is falling apart is crazy.

Yup. LLMs can do almost anything. Can they do it at the speed, cost and confidence of a model like Jev is a different story. In Jev output tokens are straight up free because it's not doing text token generations.


There's a bunch. I got pissed during one of the last GitHub outages and had an AI agent one shot a clone with PR, stacks, actions, and full compatibility with the git client running on Cloudflare workers and R2. Only limitations is it was https only because CF workers don't have tcp to implement and without an enterprise account.

Works great to this day. And I was far from the first.


This whole mess brought to like just now little moat there is left in the AI world.

Like, everyone talks about how you can just prompt a new CRM instead of paying for Salesforce.

But in this case, I raced with Fable and Sol and had time to build a full featured, fully functional CI/CD workflow system that has most of the features of GitHub actions (not the ecosystem obviously) and costs less than the GitHub runners per minute, while being able to scale to millions of workflows... And I had it working end to end before the outage was resolved and was already running my apps deploys through it.

It would take a little longer to do in a company with red tape and more investments in the GitHub ecosystem, and of course it only replaced actions. But it works.

There is no moat.


i can make a snickers bar at home in 30 minutes right now. what's stopping me from taking over mars inc


But if you just want a high-quality bar just for you, you don’t want to take over Mars Inc.


Did you run millions of real workflows on it? Or else how do you know it can handle millions of workflows?


in the world of AI, forking is so much easier.

I was messing with a closed source tool from a vendor, and turns out they didn't support my use case (they were Mac only, I needed a Linux version. And I wanted it in a different programming language than they had used for maintenance and performance).

Pointed Fable and Sol at the binary and the symbols (most of the work was through http, to be fair), and a few hours later I had a fully functional version with additional features.

now of course the legality of that being closed source is iffy, but it was for personal use. In this case its open source. Need to run this on another platform ? You probably can get very far with a prompt or two.


Cloudflare is hit or miss there.

They move pretty quick so they tend to ship a lot of product very quickly that have a lot of potentials. But they are very much MVPs, and you'll hit a lot of limitations that aren't always obvious at first blush. And then it can take years before they mature, at which point they'll pour a ton of resources and they'll go from useless to top tier in like 2 months.

It's really hard to tell.

The Vite plugin for Cloudflare Worker was one of those. It was really rough at first and I wasted hundreds of hours getting stuff working as advertised. And then in a week they fixed all the bugs.

AI Gateway is another. We used it at first because it seemed to check all the boxes, and turns out it had tons of limitations and almost none of the features of other offerings, with very few updates months+. And then recently they basically added all the features it was missing in a few weeks/months and now its good.

Agent SDK too, it was always behind with outdated dependencies and missing features all other agent frameworks had. And then one day they started iterating super fast and now its legitimately good.

You can never tell reading the docs, so you have to try it, curse because you only find the limitations once you're running the thing for real in production, abandon it, then a few months later its everything you could ever want.

I have a love hate relationship with Cloudflare. Mostly love, but still.


Same! What I tell people is that Cloudflare products can be extra beta, and you have use your nose to smell the future. Truly love hate as their ecosystem of interesting tools can be so tempting.


Still waiting for them to fix the limitations of their Google tag gateway, but considering their focus over the last year I doubt it will happen.


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