I can prove things are the way they are outside my mind's perception of them, through the use of extra sensory devices.

Even in a Donald Hoffman esque icon:hardware situation - and I think he said - "I don't take the icon literally, but I do take it seriously" meaning that even though it's an illusion, it still performs the function, I have trouble with mind preceding matter.

It's the same trouble I have with human-like intelligence preceding worlds.

People come out of worlds, not the other way around.